Ted, I know i am a little young for this board. But i thought was cool to see other wetters in michigan it made me feel not so alone. I have also felt that depends and such are only in the store for me. I have had my wetting problem for a few years now ever sence i car accident i was in. It would be cool to chat with you if you'd like my e mail address is Dave8344@aol.com talk with you later, Dave